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I see that stins just added the cityZenn to the Huddler products section.  I hadn't heard of this EV before now, but it sounds freakin' kickass.

 

80 mph top speed (pretty standard for highway speed EVs), but 250 miles per charge.  That whoops the Miles Javlon (80 mph, 120 miles/charge) and ZAP Alias (100 mph, 100 miles/charge), which are due out at roughly the same time (late 2009).  No word on the pricing, except Zenn claims it will be "cost-competitive with combustion engine vehicles."

 

That's not very revealing, since combustion engine vehicles vary wildly in price, but if they can get it into the $30-40,000 price range, that would be huge.  The reason they have longer proposed range than Miles and ZAP is that they're using ultracapacitorrs rather than traditional batteries, which are supposed to be "longer lasting, lighter, more powerful, and environmentally friendly than current battery technologies."

 

Article on ultracapacitors here.

 

The thought was that ultracapacitor use in EVs was still years away, but this company being used by ZENN (EEstor) claims to have developed the technology and already has a production facility.

 

So if they can meet these goals (reasonably affordable EV with 80 mph top speed and 250 miles/charge by fall 2009), that would be a huge development in the EV industry.  Needless to say, I've added the cityZENN to my 'I want it' list :-)


Edited by dana1981 - Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:17:56 UTC
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Yeah, I actually just came across a press release announcing the cityZENN this morning (it was originally published on March 31st). 

 

It mostly covers the relationship between ZENN and EEStor and a little bit about the cityZENN.  But here's a little excerpt:


Zenn did not disclose a price for the new car, but Clifford said it would be cost-competitive with combustion engine vehicles.

 

As for manufacturing the cityZenn, Brian Cott, Zenn's COO, said, "We are working to secure an established host platform from a shortlist of major OEMs."

 

The company currently uses a prefabricated host vehicle from France's Microcar for its low-speed vehicles.

 

Cott said the company's marketing team is looking at "key global markets" for the release of the highway speed car.

 

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It does sound really nice but it still only seats 2 people.  What is a family to do?? I'll keep my fingers crossed that someone comes up with a multi-passenger EV that is in a reasonable price range.

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It does sound really nice but it still only seats 2 people.  What is a family to do??

 

 

I'm not sure that's true.  ZENN hasn't released any details about the type of car they'll be using for the cityZENN, as far as I'm aware.  The ZENN NEV is a four seater, so I wouldn't be surprised if the cityZENN was also a four seater.

 

If it's not, there's always the Miles XS500.

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It does sound really nice but it still only seats 2 people.  What is a family to do??

 

 

I'm not sure that's true.  ZENN hasn't released any details about the type of car they'll be using for the cityZENN, as far as I'm aware.  The ZENN NEV is a four seater, so I wouldn't be surprised if the cityZENN was also a four seater.

 

If it's not, there's always the Miles XS500.


 

I was judging by the picture.  Yes...book by the cover etc...LOL!!

 

That Miles XS500 sounds AWESOME! I might be able to talk my hubbie into it. 

 

I feel like Varuca Salt (willy wonka) "I want it now!"


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I was judging by the picture.  Yes...book by the cover etc...LOL!!

 

That Miles XS500 sounds AWESOME! I might be able to talk my hubbie into it. 

 

Yeah, the cityZENN is very exciting if it lives up to expectations though.  Because it's using ultracapacitor batteries, it has more than double the expected range of other highway speed EVs like the XS500, and according to the CEO, they're aimng for a lower price ($25-30k vs. $35-40k).  The cityZENN could revolutionize the automotive industry.  According to the interview I listened to today, we should know by the end of this year whether their battery manufacturer (EEStor) will meet those goals.  Very exciting.

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I remember reading about this back in march. Ultra capacitors sound totally awesome, EEstor is pretty secretive about their operations and as far as I know no one has verified that their ultra capacitors actually work, but if they do that's pretty freaking awesome and it will definately revolutionize the EV industry.

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Yeah, they are very secretive.  However, ZENN sounds very confident that they'll be able to deliver on their battery promises.  I highly recommend listening to this interview with ZENN Motors CEO Ian Clifford from EVcast.

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I'm very optimistic about Estorrs technology.  I hope the zenn drive train finds its way into several lines of OEM vehicles.  Keep in mind that Lockheed has also sampled the Estor caps and made agreements for licensing of the technology.  I just can't wait to get my hands on this car and play with the power pack.  As soon as the have a pre-order/wait list I'll be on it.

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After the 2002 Toyota RAV4 EV hoopla with Chevron-Texaco, I would be really secretive about battery or "ultracap" technology as well.

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