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My list of Fakers and Not Fakers

Organicgal's List of Fakies and Not Fakies

 

side note: Though I do commend companies who use organic ingredients, because this is great for the planet, I do not think combining them with chemicals and synthetics is good for the planet or for people. Some body care chemicals are toxic to create, while others are toxic to our health.

 

Parameters for my list: I'm only listing products/companies for their personal body care lines (ie. shampoos, lotions, cosmetics, etc) because body care is not a regulated industry.

The USDA Organic regulations/laws only extend to food items or body care items that are food grade.

 

If you work for a company on my fake list and you are mad I put you there, contact your company and yell at them, not me. I did my research thoroughly, and read ingredient labels carefully. It took me HOURS to put together this list. I also work in a health food store that carries a lot of these brands so I am VERY familiar with them, and have been in the health care biz for over 5 yrs. As well as working in the health food store, I'm a licensed massage therapist, and skin care specialist. I've been to hundreds of hours of schooling & training. Just so you know, I'm not pulling this info out of nowhere. LOL.

 

 

Fake Organics: These companies use synthetics or chemicals, and sometimes very little organics in their finished product and some even call themselves organic in the brand name whilst not being certified as a whole. Such ingredients used are (but not limited to) SLS, Propyl Glycol, Parabens, Peg's, Dimethicone, Disodium EDTA, DEA, TEA and/or Phenoxythanol landed many of these companies on this list.

 

1. Jason pure natural organic

 

2. Avalon Organics

 

3. Derma E Organic Expressions

 

4. Alba Organics

 

5. Head Organics

 

6. Juice Beauty

 

7. Emenince Organics (until they label their ingredient list as to which plants are organic, or supply their organic certification on their label, how are we to know? they do get to be on my Real naturals list though)

 

8. EO (natural and organic products..though their lip balm is really organic)


9. Giovanni (they use PVP which is vinyl)


Fake Naturals:
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hese companies claim they are "natural", "safe" or "wellness" but use chemicals and/or synthetics in their products. Such ingredients used are (but not limited to) SLS, Propyl Glycol, Parabens, Peg's, Dimethicone, Disodium EDTA, DEA, TEA and/or Phenoxythanol landed many of these companies on this list. These types of ingredients don't promote a natural, or safe, way of life nor are considered part of healthful lifestyle in the wellness community.

 

1. Tom's of Maine (sls in their toothpastes)

 

2. Method

 

3. Derma E

 

4. Zia

 

5. Desert Essence (with the exception of their pure oils and castile face soap, essential oils; those are truly natural and some even organic)

 

6. Alba

 

7. Melaleuca (the "wellness company"...ummm toxic ingredients don't promote wellness in my mind)

 

8. Shaklee

 

9. Arbonne (their baby line is horribly toxic).


10. Pure and Basic

 

11. Aura Cacia some body care items (even their baby line, body washes)

 

12. Healthy Times baby line

 

13. Harpswell

 

14. Eco-bella

 

15. EO


16. Bare Minerals

17. Nature's Gate

18. Kiss my Face

19. The Body Shop

 

20. Aveda

 

21. Origins

22. Huggies/Pamper naturals. "Yeah, right." yes that was sarcasim 


 
Real Organic: no chemicals, no synthetics; never ever.

 

1. Earth Mama Angel Baby

 

2. Miessence Organics 

 

3. Pangea Organics

 

4. Nourish

 

5. Bottled Earth Company

 

6. John Masters

 

7. Eco-Beauty Organics

 

8. Aura Cacia Organics (essential oils & massage oils, bath salt)

 

9. Sun Dog

 

10. Dr. Bronner


11. Desert E (only their: organic oils such as their jojoba oils, their castile face soap, and essential oils)

12. Gratefulbody Organics

 

13. Oracle Organics


Real Natural:  Though they might not use all organic ingredients, their finished product has NO added chemicals or synthetics.

 

1. Mychelle

 

2. Earth Mama Angel Baby

 

3.Zum (by indigo wild)

 

 4. Aubrey Organics, (they are not on my organic list because not all products are fully organic, though they never use chemicals or synthetics in finished product, not a fan of their sunscreens which surprisingly use PABA. {scratches head} ????)

 

5. Burt's Bees (The front of their bottles tell you % of natural. IMO choose only the one's that say 100%. At least they are transparent about their % right on the front of bottle.)

 

6. Bon Vital's natural line

 

7. Weleda (bio-dynamicly grown plants...)

 

8. Eminence (They claim they use Organic ingredients, but there is no labeling or mention of this on the actual products, at least they are 100% synthetic/chem free! Kudos)

 

9. Aura Cacia (essential oils & body butters, massage oils, bath salt)

 

10.  Mexitan

 

11. Dr. Bronner


12. Badger ( love this company. organic and wildcrafted ingredients)

 

My resources (not only for this list, but for so much in life):

 

BOOKS

*Silent Spring-by Rachel Carlson

*Green Living- by E/The Environmental Magazine
*The Natural House & Nat. House Catalog- by David Pearson
*The Live Earth Global Warming Survival Handbook: 77 Essential Skills to Stop Climate Change- by David de Rothschild
*Earth in the Balance- by Al Gore
*Living Green: A Practical Guide to Simple Sustainability- by Horn
*The Green Book: The Everyday Guide to Saving the Planet One Simple Step at a Time- by Rogers/Kostigen
*The Consumer's Guide to Effective Environmental Choices: Practical
Advice from the Union of Concerned Scientists
*The Organic Suburbanite : An Environmentally Friendly Way to Live the American Dream by Warren Schultz
*Naturally Clean: The Seventh Generation Guide to Safe & Healthy, Non-toxic Cleaning by Jeffrey Hollender

* Baking Soda   and seperate title: Vinegar both  by Vicki Lansky
*The Naturally Clean Home by Karyn Siegel-Maier
*Healing Home Spa- by Cooksley
*The complete book of essential oils & aromatherapy- by Worwood
*Smart Medicine for a Healthier Child- by Zand/Rountree/Walton
*Prescription for Natural Healing- by Balch

*Physiology of the Skin by Dr. Peter Pugliese

*Common Drug Side Effects by Pamela Hill


Magazines/Journals
*Horticulture
*Organic Gardening
*Natural Home (sometimes seen as Nat. Home & Garden)
*National Geographic
*Mothering
*Organic Style (no longer in print, but if you can find back copies, worth a read)
*Body & Soul
*Organic Spa

*International Journal of Dermatology

*DermaScope

*Natural Beauty & Health

*Natural Health

*Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology

 

WEBSITES

* MSDS (material safety data sheets)

 

*http://www.treehugger.com/

 

*http://www.thegreenguide.com

*http://www.organic.org/

*
http://www.naplesbiofuel.com/

* http://www.organicconsumers.org/

*http://catalogcutdown.org/index.php

*http://forestethics.org/

* http://www.sociallyresponsible.org/

* http://www.ecogeek.org/

* http://www.environmentaldefense.org

* http://www.generationgreen.org/

* http://www.earth911.org

* http://www.care2.com

* http://www.emagazine.com/

 

 

UPDATE:

As of middle of March. the OCA and Dr. Bronner released shocking news about the personal care world.

Just last week the OCA is getting tough. Check out all this info. Seems 7th Gen, Method, and many others have gotten themselves in a bit of "hot water".

 

"Alert: Stop Bogus "Organic" Misbranding or Certification

To help remove some of this misleading organic labeling from the market, in late March 2008, the OCA and Dr.Bronner's filed Cease and Desist Letters to many of the bogus "organic" brands who utilize conventional and/or petrochemical material instead of organic material in making their main cleansing ingredients, some of whom even tested positive for the carcinogen 1,4-Dioxane in this study. Read the press release here and the Cease and Desist letter here.

USDA Organic SealMany of these companies misbrand “Organics” on their labels but consumers should look for products certified under the USDA like Dr. Bronner’s, because there are other weak so-called “organic” standards that a product can become "certified" under, which do not allow ethoxylation and 1,4-Dioxane, but allow hydrogenation and sulfation of conventional, not organic material, to make cleansing ingredients preserved with synthetic preservatives.

Two of these weak standards consumers should look out for are the Ecocert and OASIS standards; Ecocert actually allows certain petrochemicals in cleansing ingredients. Learn more here.

Surveys clearly indicate that when a product labels itself as "Organic" or is sold by a company with the word "Organic" in its brand name, consumers are willing to pay extra, because they believe that product does not contain cleansing ingredients made with conventional and/or petrochemical material, that may be contaminated with carcinogenic compounds like 1,4-Dioxane.

Surveys clearly indicate that when a product labels itself as "Organic" or is sold by a company with the word "Organic" in its brand name, consumers are willing to pay extra, because they believe that product does not contain cleansing ingredients made with conventional and/or petrochemical material, that may be contaminated with carcinogenic compounds like 1,4-Dioxane. "

 

http://www.organicconsumers.org/bodycare/DioxaneRelease08.cfm


Edited by organicgal007 - Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:51:35 UTC
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thanks for your list and also for listing your sources.

 

It really aggrevates me that companies can use terms like "with organic ingredients" or "natural" and mislead consumers who don't know any better.

 

You always have to check the labels and know exactly what you're getting!

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I am screaming in cyberspace. Nearly all of the products I use are on the fake list except Dr. Bronner's and Burt's Bees.  Thank you so much for the thoroughly-researched heads up, so we can support the companies with the best products and don't have to reinvent the wheel doing our own research.

 

 

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Wow, even though I had read about the controversy regarding 1,4 Dioxane, I hadn't stopped to look at the ingredients of the organic body products I use. Thanks for researching and I'll take a look at your list when I go shopping!

 

For those interested in reading more, check out this EPA report listing the chemical as a "probable human carcinogen:"

 

http://www.epa.gov/iris/subst/0326.htm

 

 

 

 

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Thank you Organicgal007!! I REALLY appreciate all the work and time it must have taken to do that research and write that piece.  You Rock!!  I am a new independent rep. (http://happyorganics.mionegroup.com) for miessence products, from the ONE Group company out of Australia, and I'm super excited to see that there is some good competition in the mix. The ONE Group brands (miessence, miVitality, and miEnviron) are all quite unique and amazing (too me at least).  This company is truly on the cusp of the organic revolution as they were the world's-first certified organic products back in Jan 2001.  The skin care and cosmetics, listed here, are quite lovely and the product line is expanding and will be developing over the next few years.  I am not sure about the Corporate Social Responsibility aspects of any of the other companies you have listed on your Real Organics list, but ONE Group gets big points for off-setting all of their production, manufacturing, and transportation with renewable energy credits and tree planting.  They also use minimal, recyclable or biodegradable packaging.  The products are consistently getting very high ratings by users on this site as well and I have personally used most of thier products which almost all get a HUGE thumbs up.

 

Again, thank you mucho.

-Emily

 

 

 


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Welcome to the ONE Group family. I've been with them for years and have loved every minute of their growth. Maybe we'll meet at convention this fall. look for me.

 

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Couldn't agree with you more on the Misleading Companies...  I used to use Melaleuca and Shaklee ........... MANY years ago....... How these people can say "Organic" when they clearly have ingredients that are toxic is beyond me. Certifed Organic is the label to look for.......

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If you think Shaklee is a Misleading company why are they listed on your profile? That seems kind of oxymoronic.

 

 

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Couldn't agree with you more on the Misleading Companies...  I used to use Melaleuca and Shaklee ........... MANY years ago....... How these people can say "Organic" when they clearly have ingredients that are toxic is beyond me. Certifed Organic is the label to look for.......


 

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I use their Laundry Detergent at times, ( I  mostly use Soapnuts)  , and I like their Basic H, my husband uses it to wash his hands..... That is the only thing that cleans his greasy oily hands........

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I hate the fact that they can misrepresent themselves like this.  It makes it hard for consumers to find the real natural and organic products out there.  I had no idea about some of them such as Method and Jason.  It can be so frustrating when you spend more money for products you think are better and safer and they turn out to not be.  Thanks so much for this list!  It will be helpful in my next shopping trip.

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OrganicGal, I don't know if you are anyone else has made a wiki with this information, but this would be a great wiki topic that people can add to.

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Organicgal - what do you think of Keys products?  I really like their Solar RX moisturizer, and their helpful "Therapy Facts" box (similar to the "Nutritional Facts" on food) is great because it states the total organic content and gives lots of detail about the quality of the ingredients (e.g. Shea Butter 5% (> 2.4% Fatty Acid Level)

 

Great catch about Eminence - it turns out that Eminence is copying the original Hungarian Supplier Ilsci, and now that supplier has to use a different name (ilike) in the USA because Eminence won't give up the trademark.

 

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I am very familiar with Eminence. The rep that rules the area here, contradicts herself frequently, which further hightens my suspicions of the company.

I have heard of Ilike, but don't know any of their team. I have a friend that is from Hungary and is returning to visit family in a couple of weeks, she's going to get the hot scoop for me. She says both companies are very popular there.

 

As for Keys products, I do not know of them. I checked the link you provided and was concerned about their use of NanoParticles. In classes I've recently taken I've learned that Nanoparticles are defined as being smaller than 100nm. This allows product to be absorbed into the skin more readily without that white ghost look that zinc displays; however, titanium dioxide (another commonly used sunblock agent) is a chemical that you really don't want to absorb into your skin. It seems they use a Nano size of 25 for zinc oxide, which is alarmingly small. Zinc in large quantities absobed or ingested will get into your system and harm your immune system. Anything above 100 mg of zinc per day will weaken your immune system. So if you are getting zinc in your diet naturally and/or via a multi-vitamin plus globbing on an easily absorbed zinc based sunblock, you could possibly be doing yourself some harm. I could not find a full list of their ingredients, so I have no other opinion on their product.

 

 

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Organicgal - what do you think of Keys products?  I really like their Solar RX moisturizer, and their helpful "Therapy Facts" box (similar to the "Nutritional Facts" on food) is great because it states the total organic content and gives lots of detail about the quality of the ingredients (e.g. Shea Butter 5% (> 2.4% Fatty Acid Level)

 

Great catch about Eminence - it turns out that Eminence is copying the original Hungarian Supplier Ilsci, and now that supplier has to use a different name (ilike) in the USA because Eminence won't give up the trademark.

 


 

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I was interested to know how much Zinc Oxide is used in MiEssence products as it is also on their ingredients list in many products along with iron oxides but they do not tell you the amounts.

 

Would you know Organicgal?  Are the amounts in these products harmful as well?

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I just wanted to make a note about Burt's Bees- I was buying some lip balm from them today, and between the honey and pomegranate tubes, I saw "fragrance," "flavor," and "carmine."

 

So even if they plan to phase out synthetics, they haven't yet, and not all of their products are vegetarian (something that I tend to assume when I buy natural personal products).  Check your individual product labels!

 

Organicgal- where did you read that they would be phasing synthetics out?  Any idea how soon?  The FAQ on their website makes no mention of phasing out synthetics, and defends their usage.

 


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The zinc oxide in Reflect is 150nm. Which is well over the Nanoparticle size, thus making it a safer alternative to most sunblocks. When you use Reflect you will notice the sheer white ghost effect from the zinc.

 

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I was interested to know how much Zinc Oxide is used in MiEssence products as it is also on their ingredients list in many products along with iron oxides but they do not tell you the amounts.

 

Would you know Organicgal?  Are the amounts in these products harmful as well?


 

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I have direct contact w/  the staff, Demona Charters being my closest contact. When I was doing research for a radio interview I bugged the heck out of BB's (it was just around the time that Clorox bought them). They are looking to phase out the synthetic fragrences and are looking to convert all their not 100% products to be 100% natural. I was given no time line, but I can ask for you.

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I just wanted to make a note about Burt's Bees- I was buying some lip balm from them today, and between the honey and pomegranate tubes, I saw "fragrance," "flavor," and "carmine."

 

So even if they plan to phase out synthetics, they haven't yet, and not all of their products are vegetarian (something that I tend to assume when I buy natural personal products).  Check your individual product labels!

 

Organicgal- where did you read that they would be phasing synthetics out?  Any idea how soon?  The FAQ on their website makes no mention of phasing out synthetics, and defends their usage.

 


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I was referring to the makeup, not the Reflect?  Any ideas on those products?

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Miessence does not use Nanoparticles of Zinc in any of their products; so the products are very safe. It is the Nanoparticles that are easily and readily absorbed.

 

Hope that helps.

 

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 This list is a great resource. I'm going to have to print it out and keep it in my wallet. I'm always on the lookout for companies that are greenwashing, so this is very helpful.

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Very curious about your inclusion of EO on y our "Faker" list -- they use very good ingredients, by hand, in small batches.

 

In fact, EO products consistently score well on the Environmental Working Group's Cosmetics Database -- nothing scores higher than a 5.

 

A Camomile & Honey conditioner they make that I like quite well contains these ingredients and scores a "4" -- mostly, it seems, because some people might be allergic to some of the components:

 

EO Organic Herbal Blend [Purified Water, Organic Chamomile* (Matricaria Recutita), Organic Aloe Vera* (Aloe Barbadensis), Organic Calendula* (Calendula Officinalis), Organic White Tea* (Camellia Sinensis), Organic Licorice (Glycyrrhiza Glabra) Root*, Organic Comfrey* (Symphytum Officinale), Organic Marshmallow* (Althaea Officinalis), and Organic Dandelion* (Taraxacum Officinale)], Behentrimonium Methosulfate (and) Cetearyl Alcohol, EO Essential Oil Blend, honey, coconut (coccus nucifera) oil, Amino Acids, Cetearyl Alcohol (and) Polysorbate 60, Behenalkonium Chloride (and) Cetyl Alcohol, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Benzyl Alcohol, Potassium Sorbate.*Certified Organic

 

The shampoo - Camomile & Honey -- has these ingredients:

 

EO Organic herbal blend [purified water, Organic chamomile (matricaria recutita), Organic Aloe Vera (aloe barbadenis), Organic Calendula (calendula officinalis), Organic white tea (camellia siensis), Organic Licorice (glycyrrhiza glabra) root, Organic comfrey (symphytum offinale), Organic marshmallow (althaea officinalis), Organic dandelion (taraxacum officinale)], Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine**, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate**, Sodium Coco-Sulfate**, Polysorbate 60, EO Essential Oil Blend, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Retinyl Palmitate (Vitmain A), honey, witch hazel, magnesium sulfate, Citric Acid, Amino Acids, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Benzyl Alcohol, Potassium Sorbate.*Certified Organic **Coconut Cleansing Complex


Check out the EO Products Statement on the use of the term "organic" in body care products.

 

Read through the site -- they base their product charter on 5 NO’s: NO artificial color (only colors from botanicals, NO synthetic fragrance (only essential oils), NO sodium laurel/laureth sulfates or cocamide DEA  (only greener surfactant alternatives), NO Propylene Glycol, NO Diazolidinyl Urea, NO Talc.

 

Could you please tell me what you judged to be "fake" or unsafe about their products?  I've actually talked with the founder at GreenFestival and have been using these products for years (when I'm not using Apple Cider Vinegar, but that's another entry).

 

Thanks!

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I included EO because they use ingredients such as Phenoxyethanol and Disodium EDTA. IMO anything over a score of 3 (moderate hazard) is a "Faker" because most commonly they are using synthetic and chemical ingredients to get them that high of a score.

 

This is taken directly from the EO website about Phenoxyethanol:

Phenoxyethanol

Synthetic Preservative. Protects product from microbial contamination.

 

They admit it themselves that they are using SYNTHETIC ingredients. To be on my REAL list companies aren't using synthetics. Why call yourself all natural if you also include synthetics and chemicals or chemically derived ingredients? IMO that's not natural.

 

Just because a company claims they don't use well known "avoided" ingredients, they often cheat by using other lesser known ingredients that are just as bad as the common ones.

For example, they don't use parabens but they do use Phenoxyethanol which (since you are using the cosmetic data base site as part of your defense) here's what they rate Pheno as (that's a lot of check marks that I would want to avoid in my body care products)

 

PHENOXYETHANOL

Fragrance Ingredient; Preservative  

Also listed as

ETHANOL, 2-PHENOXY-; ETHYLENE GLYCOL MONOPHENYL ETHER; 2-HYDROXYETHYL PHENYL ETHER; 2-PHENOXYETHANOL; 2-PHENOXYETHYL ALCOHOL; PHENOXYTOL; 2-PHENOXY- ETHANOL; ETHANOL, 2PHENOXY


 
This ingredient:
yes, weakCancer
noDevelopmental/reproductive toxicity
yes, moderateViolations, Restrictions & Warnings
yes, moderateAllergies/immunotoxicity
noContamination concerns
noOther strong concerns for this ingredient:
Irritation (skin, eyes, or lungs), Occupational hazards
noOther moderate concerns for this ingredient:
Organ system toxicity (non-reproductive)
noLesser or emerging concerns for this ingredient:
Neurotoxicity, Endocrine disruption, Data gaps

 

 

Thanks for asking and letting me expand on why I put them on my Fakers List.

I do commend EO for using organic ingredients! This is good, but that is negated once you throw synthetics into the mix. (IMO)

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So, you're looking at EVERY product that a company produces as your basis for judgment?

 

I only purchase products that have ingredients I recognize -- I tend to stay away from the baddies.  I think most people are pretty good about that, too.

 

Perhaps it is more helpful to provide a list of the worst ingredients to avoid -- and note the companies that use them -- rather than rule out all products by a company because a few of their products use synthetic ingredients?

 

Also, in the spirit of activist bloggers -- have you communicated with them on this subject?

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More than half (47 of 89) of EO's products have a score greater than 3, which Organicgal says is her general criterion for a faker.  If that's a fair criterion, then I think it's fair to call EO a faker.

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Thank you Dana, you summed it up for me.

 

I have most certainly contacted all the "bad" companies to voice my complaint. I'm a snail mail writer for things like that. Also calling the 800# helps too, because they seem to take those complaints seriously. At least in my experience. Though I often get the response about how they stand behind their use of synthetics and how synthetics are necessary, blah blah blaaaahhhh. IMO, if they are sooooo necessary, then why are other companies so very successful in not using them? I like to point that out as my response. I normally never hear anything back from them after that. Seems they have no real answer. Hmph. Just goes to show that they know their ingredients are junk and I guess they act like ostriches (if they ignore the consumers who really are in the know, then we don't exist). I dunno, eventually us in the know will out number those who don't. And those of us in the know will help make these companies shape up or ship out.

Funny, true story. About 6 yrs ago I wrote Avalon Organics asking why they used parabens and they wrote me back defending their use to the highest. It was a quite long reply and full of bologna if you ask me, but anyways, in a nutshell they defended parabens and said they would never stop using them because they were necessary. Look at their bottles now...they are proudly free of parabens. So see, a little bit of consumer pressure can really help change the world. Hind sight...wish I had kept that correspondence. Unfortunately they still have other ingredients of concern. If every company removed the petrochemical ingredients, our dependence on oil would drop a bit. That's  win. Small but victorious.

 

 

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So, you're looking at EVERY product that a company produces as your basis for judgment?

 


 

More than half (47 of 89) of EO's products have a score greater than 3, which Organicgal says is her general criterion for a faker.  If that's a fair criterion, then I think it's fair to call EO a faker.


 


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I really don't know what I believe when it comes to health and beauty products. I worked in HBA for over 10 years and still know several people in the biz. One develops products for well known companies. What I do know is that parabens serve a very important purpose in these products. It's used as a preservative to ensure that your beloved face cream (or whatever) will not start growing micro organisms (helps prevent mircobial contamination). Has anyone here done research on micro organisms and their effect on your health? Not good. I've been told that the "natural" counterparts to parabens are not very stable. Sure ... companies can produce products without parabens but at what cost?? Are you positive that your "all natural/organic" products are safe to use? Are you sure they will remain stable once you bring them home and they sit around for some time? I'm sure that the science will eventually catch up but are we sure it's there yet? There is no current scientific evidence that parabens cause cancer but we do know scientifically how bad micro organisms can be. Having said that, I do use Weleda Baby on my two young ones (Weleda is a company with a long history of making these products ... if I am going down this road I feel safer using a product from a company like them).

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I love this list.  My mom and I just started a new company Called Posergy, and we Have All Natural Personal care Products (some Organic) I was wondering what I needed to do to get on your list.

 

Thanks Liz

Our web site will be up and running in about a week.

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i'm mostly against parabens because there is evidence that they do not breakdown in our systems and can accumilate in our tissues. the jury's still out on their link to cancer, but the facts are there that they do stay in us. ewww. also, i'm not a fan of their being made from petroleum. let's reduce our dependence on oil, since there are other preservatives we can use. that's actually my biggest dislike of parabens. we use oil in so many aspects of life, that cutting it out where we can will make heaps of positive change.

as for naturally preserved products, i totally have faith in them, especially the one's i've listed. i've actually used and am very familiar with each product line i gave a thumbs up on. (and the one's i gave thumbs down on...we'll i've sadly to say have used many of them too, in the past) i've also been in hba for several years, started in a health food store, am currently a massage therapist and esthetician. i am fortunate enough, like you probably are, to attend so many training classes. in the plethora of classes i've taken it's just strengthened my belief that we don't need chemicals or synthetics to preserve our products. i know that many companies test their products stability in real life situations, like the ups truck heat delivery times, shower humidity, etc.  going chem free isn't for everyone, and if you feel safer with knowing your products are preserved one way over another, it's your choice. my list is here for people wanting to make the move towards chem free. some people are very chemical sensative and some people just want to avoid it for personal reasons. i just wanted to put out a list that could help people move in that direction w/out wasting money, like i did. not only did i research the products, the company etc, i also tested the products on me, a human test. this wasn't a list i put together in 1 hour. it took months of research.   ;)

 

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I really don't know what I believe when it comes to health and beauty products. ...

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i just need to investigate you. i'm sending out my nija detectives. giggle. in all honesty, i'll look you up online, email you a questionaire, find a store that sells your product, buy the product, use it, and hopefully love it. ;-)

 

 

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Originally Posted by Lizzy:

I love this list.  My mom and I just started a new company Called Posergy, and we Have All Natural Personal care Products (some Organic) I was wondering what I needed to do to get on your list.

 

Thanks Liz

Our web site will be up and running in about a week.


 

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I just thought I would post this new information from Shaklee. They are removing parabens from all of their products. I know you have them on your Fake Natural list. Not sure if this new information would change that ranking.

 

We guarantee unconditional safety

We start with nature. Shaklee scientists search the world over to source the finest natural ingredients. Then we conduct over 350 tests on every single new ingredient for heavy metals, pesticides, or any of hundreds of other harmful contaminants. And we continue to conduct over 80,000 quality tests annually to guarantee the purity and safety of each and every product.

That’s why we are absolutely sure of this: Every Shaklee product is 100% safe to use. Guaranteed.

 

We Guarantee Unconditional Safety:
Just Some of Shaklee's NO List:

  • NO Parabens
  • NO Triclosan
  • NO Phthalates
  • NO Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS)
  • NO Sodium Lauryl Ether Sulfate (SLES)
  • NO 1,4-Dioxane
  • NO Propylene Glycol
  • NO Volatile Organic Cleaning Compounds (VOCs)
  • NO Hydrochloric Acid
  • NO Ammonia
  • NO Sodium Hydroxide
  • NO Butyl Cellosolve
  • NO Formaldehyde
  • NO Bisphenol-A
  • NO Petroleum Distillates
  • NO Toulene
  • NO Chlorine Bleach
  • NO MSG
  • NO Dyes
  • NO Trans Fats
  • NO Artificial Sweeteners
  • NO Toxic Inks
  • NO Banned Substances
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Thanks for the info. When I see their new packaging/ngredients and see what they've used in place of the nasties they currently have, I'll most definitely reconsider my stance on them. Hope they do it right. Good news, so far.

Let's see what they replace parabens with, if it's phenoxyethanol, which is most common, that's just as dangerous as parabens. Holding breath it's not that.  ;-)

I think positive change is good and hope they get it correct.

 

 

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I just thought I would post this new information from Shaklee. They are removing parabens from all of their products. I know you have them on your Fake Natural list. Not sure if this new information would change that ranking....


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Please add Oracle Organics (www.oracleorganics.com) to your list of organics.  They are the real thing as I'm sure your research will support and not to mention great products.  It's such a pity that the body care industry is not regulated but you can look for symbols like the leaping bunny (no testing on animals) or those of other agencies that certify organic products.  Otherwise, it's Buyer Beware!

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Wow, lovely looking products. They are on my YES list! I am going to buy some ASAP. Thanks so much for the newbie for me to use.

 

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Please add Oracle Organics (www.oracleorganics.com) to your list of organics.  They are the real thing as I'm sure your research will support and not to mention great products.  It's such a pity that the body care industry is not regulated but you can look for symbols like the leaping bunny (no testing on animals) or those of other agencies that certify organic products.  Otherwise, it's Buyer Beware!


 

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This list is amazing!  Love the way you put them into the various categories... definatly good for a wiki article - will certainly use this research you have worked so hard on for shopping choices.

 

 

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